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	<title>Comments on: Lavish Irish &#8220;Traveller&#8221; Wedding Between Teenage Cousins</title>
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		<title>By: Yuri</title>
		<link>http://tackyweddings.com/2009/06/19/lavish-irish-gypsy-wedding-between-teenage-cousins/#comment-5297</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yuri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with what you say about other people respecting other cultures, even when there is no agreement about what is a good and what is a bad tradition. 
I think you are wrong about the way you say that we should be keeping your opinions to ourselves. 
This article is in a public forum and if people want to say something, they will do so whether you like it or not because there is such a thing as freedom of speech. Unfortunately, that is something that many use as an excuse to be abusive to others. 

By the way, the Bible says that God frowns upon sex outside marriage. That statement refers to both genders, not just the women.

Finally, I find very disturbing that you refer to girls of eleven and twelve who lose their virginity as whores. Has it not occurred to you that these girls may have been forced either by their own families or acquaintances into doing so? or they are doing it to feed themselves? or they have been groomed by a paedophile?

Moreover, whether they consented to have sex or not is irrelevant because as far as the law is concerned they are children and therefore, the person who had sex with them is breaking the law.
These girls that are so young are victims of sexual abuse, not whores and they should be treated with compassion, not contempt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with what you say about other people respecting other cultures, even when there is no agreement about what is a good and what is a bad tradition.<br />
I think you are wrong about the way you say that we should be keeping your opinions to ourselves.<br />
This article is in a public forum and if people want to say something, they will do so whether you like it or not because there is such a thing as freedom of speech. Unfortunately, that is something that many use as an excuse to be abusive to others. </p>
<p>By the way, the Bible says that God frowns upon sex outside marriage. That statement refers to both genders, not just the women.</p>
<p>Finally, I find very disturbing that you refer to girls of eleven and twelve who lose their virginity as whores. Has it not occurred to you that these girls may have been forced either by their own families or acquaintances into doing so? or they are doing it to feed themselves? or they have been groomed by a paedophile?</p>
<p>Moreover, whether they consented to have sex or not is irrelevant because as far as the law is concerned they are children and therefore, the person who had sex with them is breaking the law.<br />
These girls that are so young are victims of sexual abuse, not whores and they should be treated with compassion, not contempt.</p>
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		<title>By: Yuri</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yuri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello, Lisa Lyons Carter.

Fair enough if that is what you think. I do not agree with you as far as my grammar is concerned and I know that my messages are better spelled than the majority of those I replied to.
I know my punctuaction is not my forte and I tend to overuse the commas. I often have written my comments and published them without reading them a little bit more carefully to correct any possible errors; it is  not a good habit but time is not always on my side.

However, I would like to point out that the lion share of the content of my comments stems from the fact that many people, both travellers and non-travellers, cannot respect the other side&#039;s points of view and are very intolerant. It saddens me to read about the gross generalisations those people make about the most trivial of things.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Lisa Lyons Carter.</p>
<p>Fair enough if that is what you think. I do not agree with you as far as my grammar is concerned and I know that my messages are better spelled than the majority of those I replied to.<br />
I know my punctuaction is not my forte and I tend to overuse the commas. I often have written my comments and published them without reading them a little bit more carefully to correct any possible errors; it is  not a good habit but time is not always on my side.</p>
<p>However, I would like to point out that the lion share of the content of my comments stems from the fact that many people, both travellers and non-travellers, cannot respect the other side&#8217;s points of view and are very intolerant. It saddens me to read about the gross generalisations those people make about the most trivial of things.</p>
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		<title>By: regan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[regan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[De girls all look stunning, and yeah I&#039;m a traveller girl myself, I&#039;m fifteen and engadged to be married next year, we&#039;ve been together since we were twelve and I don&#039;t care I love him, he can provide for me. We marry so we have company for life and so our children have legitimate names, we can have jobs if we want and I finished my educationa. We lived in a trailer on a site in winter and traveled in summer, we moved into a house when I was eight for my education and. I hate it! I miss the community of a site and the freedom of travelling, I miss having like minded people around me and as soon as I&#039;m sixteen and married ill be straight back into a trailer. My fiance works hard for a living as a tarmacer, landscaper and scrap man, he&#039;s honest and doesn&#039;t steal. He doesn&#039;t fuck me about like so many gorgha lads do, he&#039;s worked since thirteen unlike all de gorgas who CHOOSE to lay about and smoke weed all day. My daddys worked all his life to provide for me, my mammy and me sister and brothers and now my husban will stay home to clean the trailer and raise my kids, why dhouldnt I look after my man if he works so hard for me? Is it wrong? We don&#039;t need a second income and no matter what anyone says most girls only work for the money. We don&#039;t need it, its a mans business. Its awfull to see you all assuming were all bad, I&#039;m a decent hardworking gel and have been brought up with better morals than most gorga gels. When I get married ima put the pics up and youse can take the piss all ye&#039;s want, your just jelous that were pure enuough to wear white on our big day and a smile cause we know were together for life, better for worse till death do us part, not three years of shagging about do we part like u gorgas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>De girls all look stunning, and yeah I&#8217;m a traveller girl myself, I&#8217;m fifteen and engadged to be married next year, we&#8217;ve been together since we were twelve and I don&#8217;t care I love him, he can provide for me. We marry so we have company for life and so our children have legitimate names, we can have jobs if we want and I finished my educationa. We lived in a trailer on a site in winter and traveled in summer, we moved into a house when I was eight for my education and. I hate it! I miss the community of a site and the freedom of travelling, I miss having like minded people around me and as soon as I&#8217;m sixteen and married ill be straight back into a trailer. My fiance works hard for a living as a tarmacer, landscaper and scrap man, he&#8217;s honest and doesn&#8217;t steal. He doesn&#8217;t fuck me about like so many gorgha lads do, he&#8217;s worked since thirteen unlike all de gorgas who CHOOSE to lay about and smoke weed all day. My daddys worked all his life to provide for me, my mammy and me sister and brothers and now my husban will stay home to clean the trailer and raise my kids, why dhouldnt I look after my man if he works so hard for me? Is it wrong? We don&#8217;t need a second income and no matter what anyone says most girls only work for the money. We don&#8217;t need it, its a mans business. Its awfull to see you all assuming were all bad, I&#8217;m a decent hardworking gel and have been brought up with better morals than most gorga gels. When I get married ima put the pics up and youse can take the piss all ye&#8217;s want, your just jelous that were pure enuough to wear white on our big day and a smile cause we know were together for life, better for worse till death do us part, not three years of shagging about do we part like u gorgas.</p>
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		<title>By: reganlovespaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[reganlovespaddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 13:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you are all so wrong in the way you discriminate travellers, okay so 

1-some of us havent had the best education? why does that matter to you? most of us have the choice to go to school or not. 
2-we dont have to get married, we choose to because we want our children to have legitimate names and someone to provide for us, our husbands stand by us and give us what we need, there our best friends and we give ourselfs fully to him and only him, are you country people saying thats a bad thing?
3-we can have jobs if we want, you all see the steryotypical view of us cleaning our trailers but if a woman wants to look after our man and children without worring about money; why shouldnt she?
4- not all travellers are the same, some families are very strict and some not so strict; but i know for a fact the slackest traveller gel has more morals than country girls.

i am sixteen and yeah, im getting married at eighteen. my fiance is a gorgeous hard working man unlike gorga men who doss about smoking weed and waiting for thems dole. he wants to provide for me and give me his name before we bring children into the world; he works hard to save for our futer hes not a &quot;criminal&quot;. hes a tarmacer, landscaper and scrap man and works on the fair- another steryotype you gorgas wanna rip to bits?.ive known him since i was ten, been together since i was thirteen and he preposed on my sixteenth birthday. he got permission of my daddy and grandaddy first and do youse know what?  i WILL have a huge dress and do you know why? cause i can, if i wasnt a traveller i would STILL have a huge dress, its the most important day of our lives, why shouldnt we splash out?.

i also wanna say, i lived on a site and travelled in a trailer up untill i was eight, my mammy and daddy wanted me to get an education so i had choices so, we settled and we still are, once im eighteen and married i will move into a trailer with my husband and i cant wait, on a site of with a group your travelling with you have a sence of community, you always have like-minded people around yoiu, the kids are happy and safe cause you know everyone and theres no arguing and fighting unless its oranised with rules. i HATE being settled, its boring and theres no community spirit, i miss my site and living ina  trailer gives you freedom, a house to me feels like a prison.

when i get married, ill put some pics on here, all you dumb gorgas can laugh at my wedding while seretly thinking &quot; i want one&quot; well sorry, non of youse are pure enough to be wearing white are yas?.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are all so wrong in the way you discriminate travellers, okay so </p>
<p>1-some of us havent had the best education? why does that matter to you? most of us have the choice to go to school or not.<br />
2-we dont have to get married, we choose to because we want our children to have legitimate names and someone to provide for us, our husbands stand by us and give us what we need, there our best friends and we give ourselfs fully to him and only him, are you country people saying thats a bad thing?<br />
3-we can have jobs if we want, you all see the steryotypical view of us cleaning our trailers but if a woman wants to look after our man and children without worring about money; why shouldnt she?<br />
4- not all travellers are the same, some families are very strict and some not so strict; but i know for a fact the slackest traveller gel has more morals than country girls.</p>
<p>i am sixteen and yeah, im getting married at eighteen. my fiance is a gorgeous hard working man unlike gorga men who doss about smoking weed and waiting for thems dole. he wants to provide for me and give me his name before we bring children into the world; he works hard to save for our futer hes not a &#8220;criminal&#8221;. hes a tarmacer, landscaper and scrap man and works on the fair- another steryotype you gorgas wanna rip to bits?.ive known him since i was ten, been together since i was thirteen and he preposed on my sixteenth birthday. he got permission of my daddy and grandaddy first and do youse know what?  i WILL have a huge dress and do you know why? cause i can, if i wasnt a traveller i would STILL have a huge dress, its the most important day of our lives, why shouldnt we splash out?.</p>
<p>i also wanna say, i lived on a site and travelled in a trailer up untill i was eight, my mammy and daddy wanted me to get an education so i had choices so, we settled and we still are, once im eighteen and married i will move into a trailer with my husband and i cant wait, on a site of with a group your travelling with you have a sence of community, you always have like-minded people around yoiu, the kids are happy and safe cause you know everyone and theres no arguing and fighting unless its oranised with rules. i HATE being settled, its boring and theres no community spirit, i miss my site and living ina  trailer gives you freedom, a house to me feels like a prison.</p>
<p>when i get married, ill put some pics on here, all you dumb gorgas can laugh at my wedding while seretly thinking &#8221; i want one&#8221; well sorry, non of youse are pure enough to be wearing white are yas?.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Lyons Carter</title>
		<link>http://tackyweddings.com/2009/06/19/lavish-irish-gypsy-wedding-between-teenage-cousins/#comment-5264</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa Lyons Carter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 01:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Yuri,
I don&#039;t mean to criticize, but your punctuation and grammer leaves much to be desired. In fact, you only have one sentence that is punctuated correctly. The only reason I am mentioning it is because you have mentioned the punctuation of others on more than one occasion. Again, this is only an observation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Yuri,<br />
I don&#8217;t mean to criticize, but your punctuation and grammer leaves much to be desired. In fact, you only have one sentence that is punctuated correctly. The only reason I am mentioning it is because you have mentioned the punctuation of others on more than one occasion. Again, this is only an observation.</p>
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		<title>By: Yuri</title>
		<link>http://tackyweddings.com/2009/06/19/lavish-irish-gypsy-wedding-between-teenage-cousins/#comment-5256</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yuri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 04:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To traveller girl.

Excuse me, darling, with reference to the comment you left in reply to one of mine, I would like to say this:

if I want to state an opinion in a forum that is open to the public, I will do so if I wish to do so and certainly I am not going to take orders about &quot;putting a sock on&quot; or &quot;shutting up&quot; from someone who behaves like a bully by shouting: 

&quot;YURI, STICK A SOCK INIT WILL YOU AND SHUT THE FUCK UP! HE CAN GET RACIST BACK IF HE WANTS, WE’VE BEEN GETTING IT A LOT ON THIS WEBSITE SO GO AWAY&quot;

I could make a lot of really derogatory comments about the poor grammar, the lack of punctuation and the apparent contradictions in that one and the rest of your statements. But do you know something?, I shall not bother because frankly, I can only see insecurity and narrow mindedness from you and I truly feel pity and shame for you.

You and others keep complaining about people being racist simply over something as trivial as an opinion on a wedding dress. Let me tell you, with that sort of comment, particularly when it is directed against somebody who hates seeing prejudice and hatred towards others, you are not doing yourself or your community any favours. How very sad!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To traveller girl.</p>
<p>Excuse me, darling, with reference to the comment you left in reply to one of mine, I would like to say this:</p>
<p>if I want to state an opinion in a forum that is open to the public, I will do so if I wish to do so and certainly I am not going to take orders about &#8220;putting a sock on&#8221; or &#8220;shutting up&#8221; from someone who behaves like a bully by shouting: </p>
<p>&#8220;YURI, STICK A SOCK INIT WILL YOU AND SHUT THE FUCK UP! HE CAN GET RACIST BACK IF HE WANTS, WE’VE BEEN GETTING IT A LOT ON THIS WEBSITE SO GO AWAY&#8221;</p>
<p>I could make a lot of really derogatory comments about the poor grammar, the lack of punctuation and the apparent contradictions in that one and the rest of your statements. But do you know something?, I shall not bother because frankly, I can only see insecurity and narrow mindedness from you and I truly feel pity and shame for you.</p>
<p>You and others keep complaining about people being racist simply over something as trivial as an opinion on a wedding dress. Let me tell you, with that sort of comment, particularly when it is directed against somebody who hates seeing prejudice and hatred towards others, you are not doing yourself or your community any favours. How very sad!</p>
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		<title>By: meowomon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[meowomon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not &quot;jealous&quot;. I don&#039;t envy a life of servitude to a man. I do not want to live crowded in a travel trailer or low rent housing.  I do not want to wear a ridiculous wedding dress so impossibly wide that I lose all dignity as my bridesmaids shove me down the aisle of the church. I do not want my 13 year old child wearing a skanky hoochy mama outfit to a church wedding. I do not want some half-wit violent husband who is also my distant relative. I am sooooo NOT &quot;jealous&quot;. Actually that would be &quot;envious&quot;. But then if you had an education you would know the difference.   

Please get some education and value yourselves. This is the 21st century and women are so much more than wives, mothers and domestic servants.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not &#8220;jealous&#8221;. I don&#8217;t envy a life of servitude to a man. I do not want to live crowded in a travel trailer or low rent housing.  I do not want to wear a ridiculous wedding dress so impossibly wide that I lose all dignity as my bridesmaids shove me down the aisle of the church. I do not want my 13 year old child wearing a skanky hoochy mama outfit to a church wedding. I do not want some half-wit violent husband who is also my distant relative. I am sooooo NOT &#8220;jealous&#8221;. Actually that would be &#8220;envious&#8221;. But then if you had an education you would know the difference.   </p>
<p>Please get some education and value yourselves. This is the 21st century and women are so much more than wives, mothers and domestic servants.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Lyons Carter</title>
		<link>http://tackyweddings.com/2009/06/19/lavish-irish-gypsy-wedding-between-teenage-cousins/#comment-5251</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa Lyons Carter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 06:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My great great grandfather came to America (San Diego, California) from Ireland in 1889. I am proud to acknowledge my Irish roots and I admire the Irish Travelers. I am appalled at the bigots, raciest, and ignorant attitude of some of the women on this site. Who are you to judge any individual simply because they choose a different lifestyle than you have chosen?! Are we not all children of the same God? Did God not give us a free will to make our own choices? I wish half the young women in the U.S. (especially here in CA) had an ounce of the moral integrity that the travelers do. These women have made a decision and commitment before God, and they honor it. They have chosen to raise a family instead of continuing their education. This is what works for them, who are you to judge!? To Jane- you know exactly what Rebecca was trying to articulate, and if you don&#039;t then perhaps it is you who should return to school.
Hats off to the Irish Travelers! I love you and have no doubt that some of you are distant relatives. I applaud you morals and values and will defend your freedom to chose with my life! God Bless you all!  Lisa Lyons Carter]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My great great grandfather came to America (San Diego, California) from Ireland in 1889. I am proud to acknowledge my Irish roots and I admire the Irish Travelers. I am appalled at the bigots, raciest, and ignorant attitude of some of the women on this site. Who are you to judge any individual simply because they choose a different lifestyle than you have chosen?! Are we not all children of the same God? Did God not give us a free will to make our own choices? I wish half the young women in the U.S. (especially here in CA) had an ounce of the moral integrity that the travelers do. These women have made a decision and commitment before God, and they honor it. They have chosen to raise a family instead of continuing their education. This is what works for them, who are you to judge!? To Jane- you know exactly what Rebecca was trying to articulate, and if you don&#8217;t then perhaps it is you who should return to school.<br />
Hats off to the Irish Travelers! I love you and have no doubt that some of you are distant relatives. I applaud you morals and values and will defend your freedom to chose with my life! God Bless you all!  Lisa Lyons Carter</p>
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		<title>By: Carmel</title>
		<link>http://tackyweddings.com/2009/06/19/lavish-irish-gypsy-wedding-between-teenage-cousins/#comment-5240</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carmel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 23:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My Oh My.  A website of perfect people with perfect English here for battering those of a different culture.  
You must be so proud of yourselves.

Anything to make yourselves feel better.

Bigots still exist]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Oh My.  A website of perfect people with perfect English here for battering those of a different culture.<br />
You must be so proud of yourselves.</p>
<p>Anything to make yourselves feel better.</p>
<p>Bigots still exist</p>
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		<title>By: Cara</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 21:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We know you have no shame. It&#039;s glaringly obvious, unfortunately  The girls are so desperate to get married that they say yes to the first boy (not man) who asks.  That&#039;s truly sad and desperate. Still, you must know your cousins well enough to marry them by the time you&#039;re 16.

The full stop IS to the right of the M.  Not above it, not below it and not to the left of it.  The comma is to the immediate right of the m but that doesn&#039;t mean the full stop isn&#039;t to the right of the M also.  Go back to school.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We know you have no shame. It&#8217;s glaringly obvious, unfortunately  The girls are so desperate to get married that they say yes to the first boy (not man) who asks.  That&#8217;s truly sad and desperate. Still, you must know your cousins well enough to marry them by the time you&#8217;re 16.</p>
<p>The full stop IS to the right of the M.  Not above it, not below it and not to the left of it.  The comma is to the immediate right of the m but that doesn&#8217;t mean the full stop isn&#8217;t to the right of the M also.  Go back to school.</p>
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